POST: The 751 No-Go Zones of France, Daniel Pipes' Weblog, November 14, 2006Both unreal and prosaic. After all, America has several hundred such "lost control" areas within its own borders. We just call them Native American reservations.
The unreal part would seem to be France apparently giving up on integrating Muslims--at least in a geographic sense.
One foresees a France of multiple citizenships.
One thing for an abstraction called the "United States." Another thing for the homeland of the French.
Thanks to Dan Hare for sending this in.




Comments (5)
"After all, America has several hundred such "lost control" areas within its own borders. We just call them Native American reservations."
Please read the comments on the site. I'm not sure who is right, but there are many commenters claiming that the zones are merely designated for special economic development, much as inner-city areas here in the US are.
I'm doing some googling right now and have found some scholarly referenecs discussing the ethnic heterogeneity of the ZUS areas. I'll post some stuff when I find more.
Posted by Bolo | November 27, 2006 8:00 PM
So these are little Saudi Arabias or Pakistans? Or are they just ethnic enclaves?
Posted by RyeBread | November 28, 2006 3:13 AM
No, just more bullshit from the man that brought you Iraq. "Zone sensible urbain" means a poor, rough 'hood. That's all.
Past performance is a guide to future performance when the subject is an individual. Daniel Pipes would say anything that makes his own disaster look slightly better.
Posted by Alex | November 28, 2006 5:15 AM
"Both unreal and prosaic. After all, America has several hundred such "lost control" areas within its own borders. We just call them Native American reservations."
Not sure what you mean here. If you mean there are jurisdictional/sovereign borders with the united States, then of course: we have fifty large states that have significant trouble reaching into each other.
Perhaps you mean there are areas of significant crime with insufficient law enforcement -- but then why single out rezes (some of which are quiet peaceful and well-off)?
Posted by Dan tdaxp | November 28, 2006 7:32 AM
Tom,
After reading some of the comments on Daniel Pipe's posting, I've been trying to verify this as well. Lots of commentators are saying these zones are areas zoned for economic development, but there is nothing so far regarding lawlessness.
Assuming Daniel is basically correct in his assumptions of ZUS, I still do not think Daniel's labeling of ZUS areas as "Dar al-Islam" applies. It would be better to call these areas "Gap Societies", as I have mentioned in my posting here:
Posted by StrategyUnit | November 28, 2006 12:31 PM